Governments will continue to debate ahead of the Cop28 climate talks on whether to call for a phase-out of fossil fuels, Egypt's Cop27 chairman told reporters after a meeting of 50 climate ministers in Copenhagen today. Egypt's Foreign Minister Sameh Shoukry said there would be "consultations and negotiations" on whether to call for a phase-out of fossil fuels when governments meet in the United Arab Emirates (UAE) in November. This question divided the governments at the climate negotiations in Copenhagen27, which he chaired last November. Standing next to him, Danish climate minister Dan Jorgensen added: "There is no doubt that this will be part of the discussion heading into the Cop28 conference." But he added that "it is obviously difficult to say whether we will achieve this result later this year in Dubai". Shoukry said there is "general recognition of the importance of reducing dependence on fossil fuels and the possibility of transitioning to renewable energy sources, clean energy". He added: "It has to be taken in terms of what constitutes a just transition".